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If you paid by credit card I would contact them if you get no joy with the shop.

He didn't have time to do the MoT because bike was foooked.

Name and shame please ! What model husky did you part ex with ?

You should take comfort from the fact you bought it from a dealer because if this was a private sale you would have no comeback whatsoever.

Trading standards are your friend should the dealer refuse to help.

If you paid by credit card then you can call you card issuer and tell them you will refuse to pay and they will deal with the dealer for you should he refuse to refund you.

You should take the bike back to the dealer and ask for (demand politely) your money and bike back.
He should either sort all the mot failure problems or refund you.

The deal you arranged included an mot remember.

If you do not get satisfaction then tell the world about this dishonest dealers actions and warn us all who he is so he doesn't get the chance to rob any of us too.

hi i usually just browse the forum as im bikeless at the minute,but i was in a similar situation to you, except i purchaced the bike over the phone after seeing it on the dealers site so i was covered by the distance buying regs after a long fight, when i contacted trading standards they were not interested and told me to pursue through small claims court,but they would take a note of the dealer and put it on there system for future reference,i then tried citezens advice who were also useless in the end i went thru moneyclaim online set up a court case and eventually got my money back, the downside for you is you viewd the motorcycle i presume?? before you purchaced where as i know you dont have x ray vision but i think it puts a whole new slant on it from what i was told, if the dealer fobs you off please name and shame as said im currently looking and dont want to give my buisness to people like that.

Simmo wrote:

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The fact that it is a KTM is just coincidence of course....

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 That's just like you Ian, wherever there's a controversial smouldering ember, your never far away with a bucket of petrol.  

mike wrote:

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if the bike hasnt done many miles the metal filings might not be unusual. The magnetic sump plug on my BETA (KTM 450)had a beard of filings for the first couple of thousand miles as the gears bedded in. The rest sounds bad though

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It does sound as though it could be normal running in although the oil should have been changed long ago after a few miles: run in with a cheap oil to bed everything in and flush out any machining swarf then change the oil for something better. But with all the other things listed it does look as though this bike hasn't been well cared for or serviced properly so I'd be inclined to walk away from it.

Cheers,

John

Oh dear, wasn't that the the shop that recently closed and then restarted again?

If so people on here were generally speaking well of them, I'd be surprised if they were trying to pull one.
Still, if there isn't a good resolution to this then maybe we should all be wary of them in future.

Yeah, when I looked had no MOT but said it will come with one if I had it, keen with money burning a hole in my pocket, i took it, when I collected it, looked at the ticket, had advisories so I asked what they were and where was the advisorie slip he made up some crap and fobbed me off as he already had my cash in his till, a few lanes later engine blown gearbox shredded! And the couldn't even be bothered to send v5 (prob didn't even have it) rang them to ask if they posted, reply yes, probs lost in post. Cowboys if you ask me

Simmo wrote:

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The fact that it is a KTM is just coincidence of course....

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-- Edited by PeterBc on Sunday 11th of September 2011 05:01:50 PM

Well since KTM only warrant the bikes for a month from new I reckon you are going to struggle getting any headway as regards squealing to the dealer. Sorry but thats they way it is.

The wheel bearings are pretty much normal tbh, its almost like a consumable part on a dirt bike like this as they wear out regular, like shock seals etc, much like sprockets as well. You have a pedigree bike and they cost money to run, it doesn't make it a better trail bike though, just costs more and more capable on enduros rather than chanking down a devon lane.

I had a 250execf 08, lovely bike but it was just too expensive to warrant trundling it down the lanes. The earlier ones I believe suffered from Clutch basket bearings/bits coming apart in the clutch and its a common cause of filings in the gbox.

I wouldn't panic too much yet, sometimes some places lay it on a bit thick when in reality its not sooo bad.

 

ben_wheely wrote:

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delvey91 wrote:

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Gas Gas Guy wrote:

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Greenlane saw me coming a mile off (w#####s)

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 Was that where you bought the gasser from? My freind bought a 200exc from them couple of months back and bottom end collapsed within 20 miles

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 The DRZ 400 I bought off them, top end went after 3-4 weeks !!  

And then the engine completely f***ed 2 months after the new piston ...

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 sorry to say this particular dealer hasnt had a good rep even when they first started in newton abbot by the railway station knew of people who paid deposits and never got the bike and only got money back by force i personaly wouldnt deal with them and never have but im sure there are lots of people who have good things to say but i guess its the same with most dealers

doh ! wrote:

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ben_wheely wrote:

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delvey91 wrote:

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Gas Gas Guy wrote:

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Greenlane saw me coming a mile off (w#####s)

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 Was that where you bought the gasser from? My freind bought a 200exc from them couple of months back and bottom end collapsed within 20 miles

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 The DRZ 400 I bought off them, top end went after 3-4 weeks !!  

And then the engine completely f***ed 2 months after the new piston ...

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 sorry to say this particular dealer hasnt had a good rep even when they first started in newton abbot by the railway station knew of people who paid deposits and never got the bike and only got money back by force i personaly wouldnt deal with them and never have but im sure there are lots of people who have good things to say but i guess its the same with most dealers

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was the shop by the station not a different one??

Thats right pete, brought my XR400 from there, he folded the next day . luckily the xr was perfect, kinda wish i hadn't sold it, the photos i took when it went in autotrader were amazing, it looked so good. But then every time i hop of the orange beastie all is well

 

Its confusing me a bit seeing the negative comments about green lanes, they have been good to devon trf over the years, setting the trend with member discount and helping with Rights of Way stuff.

 

Something has changed since they moved across town, i do know they were dropped in it big time by the owners of the unit at Marsh barton it very nearly finnished them off.

 

Please remember guys;

As ever the first port of call with complaints must be with the retailer, by all means you can use this forum to name and shame but please make it the last option once your tottaly sure of all the facts. Its very easy dropping comments on this forum make sure the recipient hasn't made a honest mistake!

There aint enough dirt bike retailers in Devon as it is 

 

Can only speak as I find - got my 1st Trail bike (ttr) from them when they were at Marsh Barton, good deal and a nice little bike that served me well with no problems

 

GP used to bring crates of grey import trail bikes in from Japan and I bought my Serow from them although it wasn't quite as straightforward as I'd have liked or expected; Mark registered it for me but told DVLC it was two years older than it actually was and this was reflected by the number plate. I kicked up a fuss and insisted he get it re-registered which he managed to do. Also the choke cable fixing had broken (common on Serows) and I was promised a new one... still waiting!

Once it needed an MOT and, believing GP were still trading, rang and made an appointment. When I got there the shop was closed and boarded up but Mark still met me and took the bike in where 'his bloke who comes in to do the MOTs' would test it. It passed but I felt something strange had just occurred although with a new MOT in hand didn't question it too much. While waiting he explained he was redeveloping the premises and would continue trading bikes elsewhere but I never saw him again.

But, that was the long closed Grand Prix Motorcycles next to the station - Greenlane Motorcycles were, IIRC, up an alley over the road and quite separate.

Cheers,

John

 

 

What's the outcome oscar666? And is it Greenlane??

If you look at his profile he's from Bristol - so doubt it was Greelanes....

 

Still want to know how they found filings in the gearbox on an MOT

Lath Ktm Holvey wrote:

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suprise suprise was greenlane

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 No......it wasn't......1 line above your 1st post - the bike came from a dealer in WALES...

ok not mentioning any dealers ? and already commented on your pradicament ? i was wondering as i didnt see the oil removed from the gearbox when you had the service and MOT ? thing is if neglected you can get a fair bit of contamination in the gearbox oil from the clutch plates if they run in the same oil ? as the for the gearbox if this engine is a new generation twin cam not sure if clutch/ gearbox oils are same/seperated ? but if same could be just a case of poor maintanance ? lost