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maggotman · Clubman A

What would you buy for £2000

D13dkt · Clubman A

As above what would you buy if you had £2000 to buy a reliable, light fun t4 enduro bike?

Bovey · Novice

A KTM

D13dkt · Clubman A

Which one? From the 400 options

delvey91 · Devon's Best

250 400 or 450 rfs engined KTM get a 04-05ish in good order for that, Also wr250f

wackyracer · Powermonger!!

A shed load of pasties biggrin

TTR · Powermonger!!

wackyracer wrote:
A shed load of pasties

Can I join you in the shed pretty please? biggrin biggrin biggrin

devondan · Champion

300 Gasgas or KTM

D13dkt · Clubman A

What are the main differences between the gas gas and the ktm300 apart from the price?

delvey91 · Devon's Best

D13dkt wrote:
What are the main differences between the gas gas and the ktm300 apart from the price?

Build quality, a 2004 gas gas ec300 will regually go for around 1000-1200 quid whereas a KTM will still be 1800-2k, New gassers are better some stay but after seeing freinds bikes and having 2 trials bikes previouslycmyself i have no desire to own another!!! Thats my own personal opinion of course.

Johnnyboxer · Clubman B

A mint Honda XR400 for £1600 and the rest on beer and women

-- Edited by Johnnyboxer on Friday 16th of November 2012 09:02:29 AM

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Simmo wrote:
Do light, fun and t4 go together?

Yes.

-- Edited by doug9270 on Friday 16th of November 2012 09:56:18 AM

-- Edited by doug9270 on Friday 16th of November 2012 09:56:57 AM

gaschef · Devon's Best

D13dkt wrote:
What are the main differences between the gas gas and the ktm300 apart from the price?

There are more spare parts shed by KTM's around the lanes, than by Gassers. On a positive note Gas Gas do make stands out of steel not cheese

Simmo · Expert

Do light, fun and t4 go together?

Cubber · Expert

Simmo wrote:
Do light, fun and t4 go together?

Not as much together (or fun) as your "trembling and Vibration Y8117" avatar. biggrin biggrin confuse confuse

TTR · Powermonger!!

doug9270 wrote:
Simmo wrote:
Do light, fun and t4 go together?
Yes.

Shame about the Husky's weak wheel bearings though wink

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

No such thing its just you guys dont come clean biggrin biggrin biggrin

Nige · Expert

Now you mention clean, are you a WD40 man?

Back on subject I'd be looking for a dead crf to graft the drz into.

Monty · Clubman B

gaschef wrote:
D13dkt wrote:
What are the main differences between the gas gas and the ktm300 apart from the price?
There are more spare parts shed by KTM's around the lanes, than by Gassers.

Where are all these mythical orange bits that you see so many of? I broke a rad scoop the other day, could do with a new one!!!

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Nige wrote:
Now you mention clean, are you a WD40 man?

Back on subject I'd be looking for a dead crf to graft the drz into.

Yes and

Nige · Expert

Its a great degreaser

Simmo · Expert

Cubber wrote:
Simmo wrote:
Do light, fun and t4 go together?
Not as much together (or fun) as your "trembling and Vibration Y8117" avatar.

Are you familiar with the model then?

Cubber · Expert

Simmo wrote:
Cubber wrote:
Simmo wrote:
Do light, fun and t4 go together?
Not as much together (or fun) as your "trembling and Vibration Y8117" avatar.
Are you familiar with the model then?

Not particularly, I prefer the de-luxe "multi" tongue version!

Bovey · Novice

I would say a 450 exc I payed £2000 for my 03 that is immaculate with low hours and bullet proof

maggotman · Clubman A

any 4 stroke ktm rfs all have mine have been fallt less and get regular hard use 400 450 525 all mine have been faultless very reliable i would try and go for a 2004 or newer as the old ones have the gay z front pannels and 3 pice rear

Biff · Expert

maggotman wrote:

gas gas are ****e my engine fell out on one run back in the day as some will remember

-- Edited by maggotman on Friday 16th of November 2012 01:16:24 AM

Any bike can turn to S##TE if you don't. Look after it

russell11031967 · Devon's Best

Not something orange

delvey91 · Devon's Best

russell11031967 wrote:
Not something orange

Haters gonna hate, tried everything else until i found the best biggrin

russell11031967 · Devon's Best

you need to keep searching jack wink

delvey91 · Devon's Best

Haha had, Honda CRM250, CRF250X, DR350, YZ250, WR450F, 450 EXC, 250 EXC, 380 EXC need a KTM 525 Next ;)

delvey91 · Devon's Best

Oh also had a drz400 forgot that one

Rob Drake · Clubman B

I'd probably buy another Beta with a 400 KTM rfs engine but that wouldn't tick the reliable box. Unfortunately there is no bike that will tick all the boxes as I think in a lot of cases you'd need more than £2k to get the right KTM although there are good ones for less if you're lucky. Have you not considered a two stroke? Light, Fun and reliable.

delvey91 · Devon's Best

I paid 1100 for a ktm 400 exc, spent 120 in parts on it and its still going now with its new owner that rides it every single day

maggotman · Clubman A

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:

gas gas are ****e my engine fell out on one run back in the day as some will remember

-- Edited by maggotman on Friday 16th of November 2012 01:16:24 AM

Any bike can turn to S##TE if you don't. Look after it

i have had near 40 bikes since i was 16 im only 20 now ktms have been the best bike i have ever had gas gas build quality is budget any bike company ccm rejue gas gas etc can sling a bike together decen parts like suspention etc dont make it a good bike i matain all my bike and have never had a problem with anny ktm i have had and before anyone says i havent had one long my old 400 i probaly did more miles on that in a month than most here would do in a year

maggotman · Clubman A

Rob Drake wrote:
I'd probably buy another Beta with a 400 KTM rfs engine but that wouldn't tick the reliable box. Unfortunately there is no bike that will tick all the boxes as I think in a lot of cases you'd need more than £2k to get the right KTM although there are good ones for less if you're lucky. Have you not considered a two stroke? Light, Fun and reliable.

unsure about how much of the engine is ktm but you are deluded if you think a rfs engine is not reliable you ether have been trying to port it with a bag of sand or took a dump in the oil filler cap

read the adventure fourms pepole put have put 20000 miles on them without pulling the engine apart would love to se that from and wr or crfx etc

Simmo · Expert

maggotman wrote:
unsure about how much of the engine is ktm but you are deluded if you think a rfs engine is not reliable you ether have been trying to port it with a bag of sand or took a dump in the oil filler cap

read the adventure fourms pepole put have put 20000 miles on them without pulling the engine apart would love to se that from and wr or crfx etc

I don't remember being such an obnoxious tawt at your age (Rog???). What is your problem? Taking a dump in the filler cap would have little detrimental effect, I suggest doing it in the engine....

Rob Drake · Clubman B

maggotman wrote:
Rob Drake wrote:
I'd probably buy another Beta with a 400 KTM rfs engine but that wouldn't tick the reliable box. Unfortunately there is no bike that will tick all the boxes as I think in a lot of cases you'd need more than £2k to get the right KTM although there are good ones for less if you're lucky. Have you not considered a two stroke? Light, Fun and reliable.

unsure about how much of the engine is ktm but you are deluded if you think a rfs engine is not reliable you ether have been trying to port it with a bag of sand or took a dump in the oil filler cap

read the adventure fourms pepole put have put 20000 miles on them without pulling the engine apart would love to se that from and wr or crfx etc

Not knocking the RFS engine we have a few here, best medium to light weight engine out there for what we use them for. It was the rest of the bike that I've had reliability issues with but a Beta can be had for a lot less than £2k and that was one of the stipulations. My Beta was on sale for £1200 not so long ago on a 55 plate.

I wouldn't knock the WR engine either as there are some with mega hours on them still going strong, it's all down to how you look after them.

maggotman · Clubman A

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-EXC-400-2005-/261126612550?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3ccc5be646

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/KTM-EXC-400-2001-/261126620783?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item3ccc5c066f

dont be afraid to travvle if the price is right i would aso stear away from bikes that have had loats of work done engine rebuilds etc as thos ones tent to be high the money pits with loads of issues from my exsperanace

russell11031967 · Devon's Best

delvey91 wrote:
Haha had, Honda CRM250, CRF250X, DR350, YZ250, WR450F, 450 EXC, 250 EXC, 380 EXC need a KTM 525 Next ;)

Ha Ha Jack when you get to my age your list will be a lot longer and I bet you don't ride a Orange thing wink

Biff · Expert

maggotman wrote:

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:

gas gas are ****e my engine fell out on one run back in the day as some will remember

-- Edited by maggotman on Friday 16th of November 2012 01:16:24 AM

Any bike can turn to S##TE if you don't. Look after it
i have had near 40 bikes since i was 16 im only 20 now ktms have been the best bike i have ever had gas gas build quality is budget any bike company ccm rejue gas gas etc can sling a bike together decen parts like suspention etc dont make it a good bike i matain all my bike and have never had a problem with anny ktm i have had and before anyone says i havent had one long my old 400 i probaly did more miles on that in a month than most here would do in a year

Myself being a dumb ass oldie , that averages out at approx 1.8 bikes a year.
GasGas is far from budget build quality now and how you can judge after such a short
Period f ownership Christ knows.
Whoever gets to buy mine ( if and when I sell her) will get a well sorted and cared for
Gasser.
Next bike -

GASGAS

jt · Powermonger!!

Rob Drake wrote:
Have you not considered a two stroke? Light, Fun and reliable.

+1 smile

KronreifTrunkenpolzMattighofen · Devon's Best

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:
i have had near 40 bikes since i was 16 im only 20 now

Myself being a dumb ass oldie , that averages out at approx 1.8 bikes a year. 40 bikes over 4 years, is 10 bikes per year......... or 1 bike every 5.2 weeks!

Biff · Expert

nickpdo wrote:

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:
i have had near 40 bikes since i was 16 im only 20 now

Myself being a dumb ass oldie , that averages out at approx 1.8 bikes a year. 40 bikes over 4 years, is 10 bikes per year......... or 1 bike every 5.2 weeks!

Cheers Nick

Dumdassedness confirmed

KronreifTrunkenpolzMattighofen · Devon's Best

Anyway, back on topic, without vermiculus homo interference...... wink

If I had an (SWMBO) authorised spare £2K, and the 450 was still in the garage, I would buy either a EXC 250 2T or a 300 2T, purely for the grin factor. biggrin

delvey91 · Devon's Best

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:

Biff wrote:
maggotman wrote:

gas gas are ****e my engine fell out on one run back in the day as some will remember

-- Edited by maggotman on Friday 16th of November 2012 01:16:24 AM

Any bike can turn to S##TE if you don't. Look after it
i have had near 40 bikes since i was 16 im only 20 now ktms have been the best bike i have ever had gas gas build quality is budget any bike company ccm rejue gas gas etc can sling a bike together decen parts like suspention etc dont make it a good bike i matain all my bike and have never had a problem with anny ktm i have had and before anyone says i havent had one long my old 400 i probaly did more miles on that in a month than most here would do in a year

Myself being a dumb ass oldie , that averages out at approx 1.8 bikes a year.
GasGas is far from budget build quality now and how you can judge after such a short
Period f ownership Christ knows.
Whoever gets to buy mine ( if and when I sell her) will get a well sorted and cared for
Gasser.
Next bike -

GASGAS

One careful owner

D13dkt · Clubman A

On that note has anyone got a Ktm 450 or 400 for sale very close to the £2000 mark?

russell11031967 · Devon's Best

Bored of the Drz or is this as well?

D13dkt · Clubman A

Bit to heavy, fantastic bike and great ride, just got a great price for the Drz and fancy going lighter and a little more powerfull, I wish I had enough to buy a crf450 but funds won't allow just yet

KronreifTrunkenpolzMattighofen · Devon's Best

D13dkt wrote:
On that note has anyone got a Ktm 450 or 400 for sale very close to the £2000 mark?

There is a road legal SX for sale at Bridge, Exeter.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-KTM-450-SX-ORANGE-MOTO-X-BIKE-/121018531190?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1c2d443d76

delvey91 · Devon's Best

nickpdo wrote:
D13dkt wrote:
On that note has anyone got a Ktm 450 or 400 for sale very close to the £2000 mark?
There is a road legal SX for sale at Bridge, Exeter.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-KTM-450-SX-ORANGE-MOTO-X-BIKE-/121018531190?pt=UK_Motorcycles&hash=item1c2d443d76

Barge pole on that one !!