Devon TRF Group Forum

What fbf says is bob on and what most think just don't want to be the **** who says it. Well I don't see the point in pissing up folks backs just to say "matey" ban me again for saying what i think its my opinion bull headed if u like. It just makes me laugh tbh.

-- Edited by Vikings on Thursday 17th of January 2013 10:06:27 PM

Looking at the forum the over the past few weeks perhaps we need to remind ourselves of this?

I know I need to think about my use having re read it - Do you?

 

Not wanting to sound contentious but maybe not everyone is aware and I just thought perahaps a reminder was in order.........

 

 

 

 

I'll get me coat

Agree with Steve, this place is more like ebay.

Hoops wrote:

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Agree with Steve, this place is more like ebay.

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 Out of the top 30 recent posts - 11 for sales 6 of which are from 'dealers'........

He means its a forum about trail riding - not JUST selling stuff......any stuff.....

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It a fair point Jon, at times i look at the forum and struggle to anything of any interest.

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 Sometimes the rule breakers/ flamers have the best threads with the most hits.

Perhaps if it was less public and the moderators were fewer in number and less liberal with their editing then there would be more traffic and more interest. Granted you need to have mods but to be perfectly blunt trying to edit or move posts to appease some members is both childish and pathetic. It has in my opinion become "stuffy" and people that used to post interesting or funny comments have mainly moved away.

Some people are touchy to the extreme, but if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. If some get offended its tough, you should never try and " Nanny" a forum as it removes the whole point of having a forum. Thats what a forum is about, granted the Romans used to nail people to lumps of wood for expressing their opinions on a forum but we moved on from there.

Works for my forum We have no rules, one mod and have almost as much traffic as this one from a handful of members, its lively.

Far too many rules imho, far too many traders in flog it, and far too right wing, or East Devon as we know it. (sorry if that comment offends but its largely true). Needs a massive shake up if you can stand the dust and cobwebs that will ensue but will never happen as its stuck in the past, in a rut and is not allowed to evolve.

I'll get me coat and boots and I will make sure the door doesn't hit me on my way out.

Counting down to forum police edit.....

Disclaimer... the above comments are soley those of the author and should in no way be taken without a large G and T and some blue smarties.

 

Hi All As many of you know I work abroard or off shore a lot of the time, and the forum has always been something I have looked forward to of an evening to keep in touch with what's going on. I don't know what's happened in the last few months but it's changed with a lot of so called members knocking the role of the T R F and a lot of snidy comments and a few who think the Trf is a riding club . I joined with a lot of others to ride and more importantly help protect the lanes. I will continue to support the Trf , what really hacks me off are people on this forum who run down the Trf but do bugger all to protect the lanes, and just want race meetings all the time, if you want that go join a motocross forum. The Trf constitution clearly lays down the aims that's what you sign up for when you join. If you are to illiterate to read suggest you stop riding and take reading classes instead Yes I have a beard, eat pasties, drink real ale and have ridden, raced and trialed bikes for over 40 years, and I hope through the Trf that those lanes will still be available in the next 40 years, because I dont see any one else out there who is doing anything to help protect them As far as I'm concerned you are committed or you are not, but on the other hand there have been a lot of prats on the forum but they never last that long, and then another eejit comes along that we have to put up with, until they go and take up something else like boiled knitting. Look at the people who really care as they have been around for the longest and will continue to do so As for anyone I have offended tuff, the kettle is always on to those who know me and will always be

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gaschef wrote:

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Hi All As many of you know I work abroard or off shore a lot of the time, and the forum has always been something I have looked forward to of an evening to keep in touch with what's going on. I don't know what's happened in the last few months but it's changed with a lot of so called members knocking the role of the T R F and a lot of snidy comments and a few who think the Trf is a riding club . I joined with a lot of others to ride and more importantly help protect the lanes. I will continue to support the Trf , what really hacks me off are people on this forum who run down the Trf but do bugger all to protect the lanes, and just want race meetings all the time, if you want that go join a motocross forum. The Trf constitution clearly lays down the aims that's what you sign up for when you join. If you are to illiterate to read suggest you stop riding and take reading classes instead Yes I have a beard, eat pasties, drink real ale and have ridden, raced and trialed bikes for over 40 years, and I hope through the Trf that those lanes will still be available in the next 40 years, because I dont see any one else out there who is doing anything to help protect them As far as I'm concerned you are committed or you are not, but on the other hand there have been a lot of prats on the forum but they never last that long, and then another eejit comes along that we have to put up with, until they go and take up something else like boiled knitting. Look at the people who really care as they have been around for the longest and will continue to do so As for anyone I have offended tuff, the kettle is always on to those who know me and will always be

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 Agree with that too - well said.

Altho, motorcycling is a broad church - many people who trail ride also race enduro, motocross, ride trials and have road bikes.  Are we that narrow minded that we cant embrace the other disciplines? If you make this forum purely about trail riding it will be extremely thin.

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Again bob on monty!

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gaschef wrote:

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Hi All As many of you know I work abroard or off shore a lot of the time, and the forum has always been something I have looked forward to of an evening to keep in touch with what's going on. I don't know what's happened in the last few months but it's changed with a lot of so called members knocking the role of the T R F and a lot of snidy comments and a few who think the Trf is a riding club . I joined with a lot of others to ride and more importantly help protect the lanes. I will continue to support the Trf , what really hacks me off are people on this forum who run down the Trf but do bugger all to protect the lanes, and just want race meetings all the time, if you want that go join a motocross forum. The Trf constitution clearly lays down the aims that's what you sign up for when you join. If you are to illiterate to read suggest you stop riding and take reading classes instead Yes I have a beard, eat pasties, drink real ale and have ridden, raced and trialed bikes for over 40 years, and I hope through the Trf that those lanes will still be available in the next 40 years, because I dont see any one else out there who is doing anything to help protect them As far as I'm concerned you are committed or you are not, but on the other hand there have been a lot of prats on the forum but they never last that long, and then another eejit comes along that we have to put up with, until they go and take up something else like boiled knitting. Look at the people who really care as they have been around for the longest and will continue to do so As for anyone I have offended tuff, the kettle is always on to those who know me and will always be

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 Agree with that too - well said.

Altho, motorcycling is a broad church - many people who trail ride also race enduro, motocross, ride trials and have road bikes.  Are we that narrow minded that we cant embrace the other disciplines? If you make this forum purely about trail riding it will be extremely thin.

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Yep we should embrace all disciplines of motor cycling, over the years i have done all sorts of things on two motorised wheels what gets my goat are the eejits who think the Trf should be holding race meetings speed trials etc, and then portray the Trf in way that shows their own ignorance of what the Trf is about, maybe we could hold reading lessons for those cant understand the membership form says.

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Some proper stuck up fools on here for sure. So what's the point of the Trf. What do 90% of the members want from this site? A laugh. What the point of all the different sections on here if its not to be used

-- Edited by Vikings on Thursday 17th of January 2013 09:14:55 PM

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Hmm an interesting comment, I thought it quite a philosophical debate, with relevant points discussed in an educated manner, unfortunately it seems some respondents can't quite grasp even the simplest detail discussed. One can only dismay of the educational system unfortunately the solution at present of euthanasia is illegal.

gaschef wrote:

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Vikings wrote:

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Some proper stuck up fools on here for sure. So what's the point of the Trf. What do 90% of the members want from this site? A laugh. What the point of all the different sections on here if its not to be used

-- Edited by Vikings on Thursday 17th of January 2013 09:14:55 PM

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Hmm an interesting comment, I thought it quite a philosophical debate, with relevant points discussed in an educated manner, unfortunately it seems some respondents can't quite grasp even the simplest detail discussed. One can only dismay of the educational system unfortunately the solution at present of euthanasia is illegal.

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Pmsl. I rest my case! Zzzzzzzzzz! Borrrrring same old crap! And u wonder why the younger (the future) of the Trf don't bother coming on here.

Going back to the flog it bit. I like the traders on here. Nice to see local deals.

Indeed. Indeed!

Stop the over moderating. If it means making it private then so be it. Welcome the Enduro boys. The Trf out side of this forum has such a crap name because of your "strange preachy" attitude on here. Need to make it a more fun place to be. Stop taking it so literary. It's a sport a fun pass time. It's like unless its to win the fight against the world to save our lanes it shouldn't be on here. It's a good point of contact for riders but fook me it's cliquey on here somtimes.

Unless they join. Let them see the good bits.

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Vikings wrote:

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Unless they join. Let them see the good bits.

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Who decides what the good bits are?

Also what I don't understand is why a few people keep feeling the need to come on here bashing the place. There are plenty of other forums and most are not associated with any official group so there is no harm in posting whatever you feel.

FBF says he has a very busy and un-moderated forum - why not go there for that if that's what you want, why does this place have to become that place?

I too visit many other forums, and at times I misbehave but without causing harm to the groups image and more importantly without intentionally causing offence to other users.

To me this forum is primarily about meeting other riders and occasionally arranging rides with new people. That is what draw me to it in the first place. The run reports are a good way of sharing the pictures with other people that were on the run. The forum has very good technical help for both bike & non bike related stuff.

I tend not to be too interested in the other aspects, the general chit chat, you can find that anywhere so there doesn't seem to be to much reason for it to be here, but hey - each to his own.

This forum works very well for getting riders together to ride and attracting new riders who are looking for people to ride with - why change it?

If a little bit of TRF spirit can be imparted then all the better - respect for all lane user etc.

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 Hi Rich, I was not going to join in with this debate because I find the "us and them" comments quite sad. But you have tempted me out  and agree entirely with your comments. P.S. about the education system .... got to blame the teachers

Fbf what's your forum?

Lol. Bless you jt for being so single minded towards this site. Didnt relise it was just about pootaling along the lanes pissing up each others backs i thought it was about using all thpes of bikes in different areas of devon! So what about the twin shock stuff?. Does that get a slating? Non! It gets welcomed. Old boys club. Like I've said time and time again but do u care!? Not really. I've talked loads of non Trf boyos into joining as i belive the trf is well aorth supprting I may not go out on your back patting clearing days but do my own if I'm out. What ever. This is done to death. It is all about the events it's what brings in the money! Was told that this is what it's like here and it was true. Was told not to join but alas I had to give it a go. It's attitudes like yours and a few more on here ie Pete bull and others that make the Trf come across like this! There is room for all types on here but you love to shoot down anyone who doesn't fall into your idea of perfect Trf boyos

-- Edited by Vikings on Friday 18th of January 2013 04:46:47 PM

-- Edited by Vikings on Friday 18th of January 2013 04:54:24 PM

Pete - I must just add that your ad is just the kinda thing I thought the for sale section was for

devondan wrote:

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Vikings wrote:

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Some proper stuck up fools on here for sure. So what's the point of the Trf. What do 90% of the members want from this site? A laugh. What the point of all the different sections on here if its not to be used

-- Edited by Vikings on Thursday 17th of January 2013 09:14:55 PM

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 So whats the point of the TRF?  I think you might have missed the point.

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Hey Dan, It's funny that there only seems to be one dissenting voice, I would have thought that reading the membership information pack as we all have done, would have shown the point and aims of the Trf. Nor do I see 90 % of members responding to this thread, in fact we have less than one percent of the current membership responding. The democratic principle is a wonderful thing and has put Rich am enjoying a glass of red vino in holland, and wondering the same thing if so many members of the dtrfg felt we were heading in the wrong direction, which follows the national Trf line why does the Devon Trf have so many members and so many new ones joining. If I wanted something other than the Trf stands for I would join that organisation as well, not try to change a well respected and established organisation whose aims and objectives are clearly laid out. As for other comments no one is beneath me, over the years I have done many jobs cess pool emptying, working in knackers yards, diving in ****e, etc intelligence however is something else and if if an organisations aims and objectives can't be understood that's something else Anyway Nuff of the negative waves, will be home soon and ready to hit the lanes if anyone wants a ride out, with an out of date, youth bashing Luddite like myself Avaho digitus sucundas cullus and ride but non illigitimus carborundum.

-- Edited by gaschef on Friday 18th of January 2013 08:52:14 PM

I know many people who have off-road, mx, enduro, trail bikes or whatever you want to call them. Many from work. Whenever I mention the TRF I seem to get a negative reaction ( these boys also use the lanes ). I can so understand both sides to the argument. I have had loads of assistance off TRF guys re sat nav, mm, lanes etc etc which has been priceless. However I have also had sh*t off the "TRF Massive" cuz a video and run I lead contained footage of a hill climb which was just off a byway and I was told to remove it. No harm done I thought... Oh well, I obviously offended some, as I was PMed. Why couldn't this be left alone??? No need to interfere.

The problem I see most, as a younger (I'm 30 btw) rider, is hypocracy on here.  There's guys saying don't do this, don't do that on here. Then you look at there own videos and you see them and other fellow riders travelling over the "made up 25mph speed limit" and pulling the odd wheelie or two (and more). You only have to look at some people's avatar to see them popping a wheelie. I thought this wasnt accepted by the TRF??? Oh well, one rule for one blah blah blah!!!

We all have a blip on our bikes now and then, anyone who says they don't is a liar. Some people do really need to get a grip and get up with it!!!.

A more relaxed approach maybe/will be beneficial to the group!!!

Danny

-- Edited by danno82 on Friday 18th of January 2013 11:03:46 PM

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That's what Laning is all about ^^

The TRF do sterling work to keep the lanes clear and open. That in itself is enough to keep me renewing my membership every year. I try and do my bit with clearing and supporting events. This forum I think is great.

Loose lips cause trouble so just get on those lanes and enjoy em while we can!!!

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Well said Jack - Joe, bless you mate - it's not all about events events events.....

Really good on you and respect bud for the enduro stuff as I'm to fat and old for charging round the woods flat out with a number on my bike - if I was I wouldn't be on this forum I'd be on one that specialises in enduros - this one doesn't.

It's like - If some one comes into my house they take their shoes off, and if I go to someone elses house I do the same - wether you ask me to or not. Well if you don't want to take your shoes off then thats fine and i respect that - but thems the rules in my house so take em off or you ain't coming in.

Sorry guys, maybe i did want a debate - but as always of late it all turns nasty anyone who wants to get in touch has my E mail Addy - just about to scrub my account....see ya on the lanes