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tricky · Clubman B

Trail Riders Tool Kit

Harty · Devon's Best

RE: tool kit

jt · Powermonger!!

Rich will be along in a bit I'm sure......he'll tell you....

But basics?

Can of tyre foam, or spare 21" tube, levers and a Co2 cart, some Zip ties, plug and plug spanner, rag, roll of tape, spare split link for chain....multitool/leatherman type thing.....

Harty · Devon's Best

This is Doug's suggested list, of which he will be demoing at the 'Knowledge Day' in a couple of weeks.

Minimum tools

All spanners/screw drivers/hex keys to fit own bike external nuts/bolts and screws
Spare Spark Plugs x 2 + Spark plug socket
Spare Split Link
Spare front tube
Means to inflate tyre
Zip ties
Clean Rag in waterproof bag
Spare light blubs
Electrical tape
Test lamp
Pruning saw
Chain lube
2 Stroke oil

Biff · Expert

Wolfman = good kit

This is what I carry -

Spanner for rear wheel
Tyre levers x 3
Adjustable spanner
Mole wrench
Sockets and wrench (to fit my Gasser)
Screwdriver + bits
zip ties
12-13mm spanner
spoke spanner
Multi tool
spark plug
puncture kit
Front tube
tyre pressure guage
allen key set
hand pump (although CO2 cartridges are better)
Used to carry tyreweld but not much good in the times Ive seen it used. Now have heavy duty tubes + slime
Tow strap
Spare clutch and front brake levers
cuddley toy

Oh Mars bars and 2 stroke oil biggrin

Also zip closure bags are an idea for your mobile biggrin

Biff

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jt · Powermonger!!

Were you a scout confuse

RichT4 · Champion

jt wrote:

Rich will be along in a bit I'm sure......he'll tell you....

Nope, my tool kit isn't great. Just the very basics. confuse

I cobled together a basic screw driver and small socket set but removed any socket that didn't fit anything on the bike.
Add to that a large adjusteable spanner for wheel nuts and that's about it.
I need to add some bits to it - like plug spanner & tyre levers.

One usefull thing is a 14mm spanner (I think it's a 14mm confuse

) to remove the float bowl drain. The cleanerance is so tight you won't get an adjusteable in there and this drain bolt is the only way to get water out if it gets in.

gaschef · Devon's Best

No 1 Item for the tool box AA or RAC card as if all else fails, at least that will get you home, as one member found out last year when they put a hole on an engine case

I think most of the essentials have been covered, but I also carry
Couple of bits of sand paper for puncturte repairs
Couple of Schrader valves for innertubes as if you drop one in the mud its gone
Several split links as you will probably end up giving one to someone else and then need one

Clayton · Clubman A

gaschef wrote:

Several split links as you will probably end up giving one to someone else and then need one

All good advice, but I have been told that split links are not only relevant to the size of the chain, but are also manufacturer specific IE, a DID 520 link will not fit a RK 520 chain, thus making carrying spares for others a waste of time, although this may be different for none 'O' Ring chains.

Tricky if you haven't already signed up for Doug's shared knowledge day I would thoroughly recommend it, you learn loads so take a note pad.

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Clayton is right about the O-Ring chain split links, the bore size and plate thickness varies.
Another point when i order chains i ensure that i get a rivet type as well because the normal splitlink is the weak point of a chain.

The rivet type is the same width as the rest of the chain and if you have not noticed a splitlink is wider and it wears quicker = early failure.

TTR · Powermonger!!

I think there are a couple of arguments for split links.

They are the weakest point in a chain, deliberately so, and they let go rather than a link in the original chain. I had the misfortune of breaking a chain a few weeks ago and the split link saved me. Soon removed and replaced by the spare.

That's the second point, they are fittable on the trail whereas I struggle with a rivetted link in the garage let alone in a wet muddy lane cry

Usually a split link and front sprocket are changed about halfway through the life of a chain and rear sprocket as the split link does wear.

Horses for courses methinks wink

Torr · Expert

Got me a Slime Air pump after a disasterous puncture eppisode with a sparkletts punp in deepest darkest Cornwall ..................................
where even the most adventurous of the East Devoeers rarely dare to go!

(unless bartering pasties for GasGas spares)

gaschef · Devon's Best

Clayton wrote:

gaschef wrote:

Several split links as you will probably end up giving one to someone else and then need one

All good advice, but I have been told that split links are not only relevant to the size of the chain, but are also manufacturer specific IE, a DID 520 link will not fit a RK 520 chain, thus making carrying spares for others a waste of time, although this may be different for none 'O' Ring chains.

Tricky if you haven't already signed up for Doug's shared knowledge day I would thoroughly recommend it, you learn loads so take a note pad.

Totally agree, but when you have a busted chain in the middle of nowhere, a wrong size split link ridden slowly and carefully is better than no split link at all

One other important item to put with the tool kit, a first aid kit, I have seen a lot of stabbed fingers and other injuries from roadside repairs, something to stop the red stuff falling out is always of benefit

TTR · Powermonger!!

This is most of what I carry but there some other bits not included in the pic:

3 shorty tyre levers,

Slime compressor,

spare 21" inner tube,

throwaway workshop gloves,

rags, tow rope,

Halfords puncture repair spray (worked 5 out of 6 times so far),

small torch,

tyre pressure gauge,

and probably;y other stuff I can't remember!

Also, I tend to forget the TTR has its own toolkit tucked away out of sight:

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Fowlersrs · Clubman B

Trail Riders Tool Kit

Admin · Admin

Bike pump

valve puller

flat & Phillips screwdriver

plug socket

pliers

ttr steve · Devon's Best

Beer tokens biggrin biggrin biggrin

phil400 · Clubman A

aa / rac card

Devon_Rich · Clubman A

EBay special universal cable kit

gaschef · Devon's Best

Decent First Aid Kit

shack · Clubman A

Helpful and knowledgeable riding buddy (when they stop laughing and saying rude things to you)
Plus a 1:25K map to arrange a pick up

Nige · Expert

Make sure the bike is running well and serviceable no rounded or seized bolts ,nuts, screws ect.

Pete · Devon's Best

Carry the tools you actually use to service the bike in your garage. Relying on an adjustable that doesn't fit properly instead of the right size spanner just makes an inconvenience at the roadside bloody awkward and even more time consuming and spoils the day for your fellow riders.

Two six inch spoon levers will do the job with the correct technique.

Imagine the worst and plan for it and all will be well.

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jt · Powermonger!!

Webbing strap - handy for hauling stuck bikes out of 'holes' and up banks etc - also can be used to tow stricken bikes out to tarmac if req (when all else fails wink )

A few odd nuts and bolts, split pins....

SPARE LINK FOR CHAIN - used a few of them in the past (not on my bike either )

Biff · Expert

Pete wrote:
Carry the tools you actually use to service the bike in your garage. Relying on an adjustable that doesn't fit properly instead of th right size spanner just makes an inconvenience at the roadside bloody awkward and even more time consuming and spoils the day for your fellow riders.

Twi six inch spoon levrs will do the job with the correct technique.

Imagine the worst and plan for it and all will be well.

Depending who you ride with spares / tubes increase in value the farther from home you are .....

Padowan · Clubman B

Spare clutch lever blade can keep you mobile if you stack and snap your lever.

A bead buddy also makes changing tyres a lot easier.

-- Edited by Padowan on Monday 3rd of November 2014 09:46:31 PM

fatbaz · Clubman B

and a trailer to take it all ha ha

ANDY T · Sportsman

http://devongtrf.activeboard.com/t57351185/whats-in-your-tool-bag/

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Hi, A Devon member asked me to post this here. Basically as the start of a semi guide~ discussion starter

It's not a definitive list or a recommended list, just what I happened to keep in my own bag for trail riding.

Built up of things needed while covering 30,000+ miles on a KTM525 trail riding in the UK.

Please note that I've not actually needed any of the items while out riding other than for mid ride chain tightening or to lend to other riders to fix/fettle their bikes.

I would suggest that you will only really know what you need through experience of time on the trails. I carry slightly more than average because I often ride solo.. nipping out for a midweek ride where time allows etc...

I as a minimum would have:

a fully charged mobile phone,

the basic comes with the bike tool kit,

cash,

a bank card

and my bike road legal documents...

any road up..as requested here is the list;

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Posted on the TRF forum:

Just put my trail riding back pack in the washing machine and cleaned all the tools etc... I usually jet wash it when I do the bike... :P

PS both are now more than 8 years old and in the wash once a month..

[size=150]So what do you have in your bag that I might need?[/size]

In addition to the bag I have a wired in phone charge and handlebar mount and protective case for an iPhone 3gs for running ViewRanger SatNav on both voice road directions and screen OS map route following and recording...

Heres whats in the back pack and tool bum bag...

The back pack I got from a "Millets" shop for £11..it also has a removable drinks bladder and tube system.
I strapped a Moose enduro tool bum bag to the bottom of the back pack so it hangs just below it and I still use the bumbag waist belt.
The back pack together with the bumbag waist belt keeps the weight off my hips as stops it flapping about..end result very comfortable...

In the back pack:

Drinks system bladder and tube in the hot summer.

First aid bag has:
eye wash tube squeeze bottles
triangular bandages
large absorbent bandages
selection of other smaller bandages, safety pins.
surgical tape
plasters
emergency keep warm foil blanket
savlon cream and a spray on bandage I put in.

Ziplock plastic freezer bag with two wet wipes packets, a large square of terry cotton bed sheet as a rag and a pair of disposable gloves for dirty jobs, face wash if needed etc...
climbers easy dry towel,
moose no blister Kevlar inner gloves,
winter neck warmer
cycle lock
any drinks, food I might take... I will always take a bottle of water..in case I need it for the radiator.
a tow rope for bike towing
a cycle lock for pub/food stops

I might also take a HiViz vest that I will wear or strap to the back of the backpack

All the tools go in the bumbag
The tools are:

Spanners for all the things I might need to take off, tighten on the bikes. I run a 2005 KTM 250 EXC and a 2005 KTM 525MXC so all the cycle parts are the same and the only specific tools per bike are the sparkplug box spanner for the 525 and the sparkplug ratchet spanner for the 2 stroke 250.

In addition I have a set of 10mm and 13mm for the chain adjustment bolts. One from my old YZ250 and one from my old 350LC..they just fit the nuts better...

I have an old 1/4 inch drive T bar with an 8mm socket firmly on the end for easy seat and tank off..
A pair of pliers and a stainless steel multi tool with plyers, sharp knife and metal file.

Although not shown I also carry a folding pruning wood saw and a hand held length of chain saw..for bigger branches..works very well.

Other items are:
a pair of small bungee cords
square of old 6mm inner tube

a locking luggage strap
a pair of disposable gloves for dirty trail side repairs
spare levers (although the 525 has a set in the hand guards)
spare spark plug for each bike and a spark plug holder
a small refillable can of chain lube with about 2 meters of pipe tape (ducktape) wrapped around it.
I also carry a small can of WD40 but I lent it out on a ride and it's not yet got back to me... :|
I have two sets of split links for the chains I run (X ring) that I've fitted together a few times to make trail side use easy.
a length of 5 chain links for chain repairs should I damage one, and a small chain splitter on longer wild trails away from home.
a handlebar bag for a pair of protective glasses.
a climbers easy dry micro fibre towel to dry my feet off on cold day river crossings that go wrong...
a selection of zip ties in a plastic bag (keeps them together..)
a exhaust muffler that fits in the end of the 525 exhaust when riding in contentious areas..simply fits in the end and tightens with two bolts..makes it VERY quiet and removes the crackle and pop..
Downside is that in built up areas car drivers dont notice you...
a plastic bag with three fuses for the 525.

I dont carry tyre levers or spare inner tubes as I dont get punctures. But should I be running a rear trials tyre I will take them with me. A pair of handled spoon levers and a spare 6mm inner tube.

I also have a selection of KTM relevant spare nuts and bolts..

A spare drain plug, lower screen bolt and side screen bolt and a spare side stand bolt.
Several different sized KTM bolts, washers and C clips and a hose clip

I've been very lucky as I had most of my break downs with previous bikes and the two 2005 KTMs have been surprisingly reliable with only the 525 having battery problems a few years ago...
It still kick started eventually and a new battery cured it.

I will carry my van keys in the breast inner pocket of my jacket together with wallet, drivers licence, tax disc (I never put it on the bike and soon wont need to) and insurance/MOT.
My mobile phone goes on the handlebar mount in it's protective cover for use as a satnav while riding.
I might also wear a helmet camera (Archos) with monitor/recording unit inside my jacket.
(New helmet cam next year).