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How come you didn't look at them when Albion had them in then mate

The 200cc model was on display in the clubhouse at the MoorToSea,this weekend, and also at least one competing, didn't see a rep. but assume Greenlane? Must admit they are tempting, but that weight?. I wonder how much can be lost by reasonable tweaking?

This one looks interesting

 

 

Ultrapassar, AJPs Long Distance Trial special

Our new baby has been creating quite a stir on the Dirt bike forums and you can see why..

Based on the proven PR3 platform, with its sturdy Honda designed 200cc fourstroke powerplant, the Ultrapassar wears larger wheels and trails tyres, with a more robust 520 chainset and tough ally bash plate.

The engines economy, allied with light weight and stiff chassis makes for a highly durable and manoeverable weapon for the technical sections. With excellent ground clearance and tractability, the Ultrapassar should prove a formidable foe on the long Distance Trial circuit as well as a very useful and flexible tool on the Green Lanes.

Available to order, it also enjoys the benefit of AJPs 2 year warrantee for complete mechanical peace of mind and a very attractive price tag of just £3699 OTR. Effectively you can now compete on a brand new bike, or combine its strengths and combine commuting and green laning to get even better value from your modest investment.

Contact us for more info - and to find out where you can see one in the flesh, we hope to roll out some demo bikes in the near future. These bikes will be a limited edition, so act quickly to secure yours.

-- Edited by jt on Tuesday 16th of October 2012 07:10:43 PM

only dealer for ajp should be emr

TTR wrote:

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maggotman wrote:

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only dealer for ajp should be emr

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 A bit harsh?

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 Just check the birthday and let it slide....

Simmo wrote:

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TTR wrote:

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maggotman wrote:

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only dealer for ajp should be emr

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 A bit harsh?

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 Just check the birthday and let it slide....

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 emr?

Can anyone explain please, is it another lazy text speak typo I should have been able to guess?

Pete wrote:

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Simmo wrote:

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TTR wrote:

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maggotman wrote:

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only dealer for ajp should be emr

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 A bit harsh?

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 Just check the birthday and let it slide....

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 emr?

Can anyone explain please, is it another lazy text speak typo I should have been able to guess?

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Exeter metal recycling Peter. I think it's an attempt at sarcasm!

Thanks guys.

I wondered where he got his bikes from.

Loved Simmo's answer.

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they fall apart just like the lower cc ccms riejue dont see why you wouldent spend that money on a 2 or 3 year old bike instead of somting cheep and nasty look what ajp make for a start all the components for the cheeper bikes breaks for derbi gilara 50cc scoters etc 

-- Edited by maggotman on Wednesday 17th of October 2012 09:33:37 AM

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The AJP that makes brakes is/was Spanish and not related to AJP Motos. I agree that for most people a 2-3 year old Jap or Euro enduro bike would probably represent a better bet but the AJP is not in the same market place, it is a trail bike that can be raced if you wished.

 AJP really need to get some of these bikes out there in customer hands to prove one way or the other if they're up to the rigours of everyday ownership.

maggotman wrote:

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they fall apart just like the lower cc ccms riejue

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 How many AJP's or Rieju's have you owned?

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 standing - Hardly appropriate terminology!

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nickpdo wrote:

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Pete wrote:

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 standing - Hardly appropriate terminology!

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 A pun, or play on words, sarcasm intended. Cheap shot I know.

(Didn't mention the disposable pistons though).

Its something i would consider when i can no longer ride the full on enduro bikes anymore.

And for the long distance trials:

PR3 200cc Ultrapassar

-- Edited by doug9270 on Thursday 18th of October 2012 10:14:47 AM

Doug it's an XR250 motor that has been modernised and made under licence (I'm assuming by AJP)
Having ridden one at this years Dawn To Dusk event I'd say it's a vast improvement over the original Honda motor and having ridden it back to back with my Beta I'd say the bikes performance was much the same in the conditions I rode in. It may be different riding them flat out on a forest road but then we don't do a lot of that. My Beta has a 350 kitted KTM 4T motor.

I have had a close look at the AJP at Albion it appears there are two PR5s as mentioned in TBM test the mods a free flowing exhaust system sim to the Akrapovic design the only mods I would consider when last chatting to Gary were some flex levers ? And hand guards that's it , so what was there to like we'll good equip wide pegs Paioli sus good wheels fat bars the XR lump you could go down the 280 rout later ? It was slim although a little tall for some but then there is the PR4 ? Around a sturdy bike should get through one of our winters no problem with out a rusty exhaust etc P.S it's got a Estart ! -----Approved

Well fans of the AJP are going to feel more like putting there hands in there pockets now new motor water cooled three off road versions and a supa motto version ,plus the trail version under cuts the traily honda mmmmm plus plus next year the bikes gets a patented fancy cam shaft that just bolts into the new motor oohhh yep looking good AJP and yes IDE like ago on one anybody able to sort a test day for Devons finest ? Wonder if they would come to Phenix park ? Anyways read more in this months TBM lost

Didn't know they did a 240 now really like the look of the 200 passar but was put off by it being only a 200, but a 240 now thats very tempting.....

 

Yer tizz

-- Edited by jt on Tuesday 15th of January 2013 09:53:39 PM

Can you ask AJP Uk if they can bring along their Ultrapassar demo with the 240cc air cooled engine?

 

 

AJP were at the 2012 NEC Motorcycle Live bike show, with quite a large stand, which showed some promise.

 

I thought the Ultrapassar looked like an interesting alternative to the CRF230. The AJP staff said it was not an official AJP-Portugal model, but an AJP UK bike aimed at LDT riders, using the PR3 frame but with larger wheels and then lower grade shorter travel suspension than the PR5 model.

 

They said they are keen to let punters have a look at their bikes and had planned to be at the Cotton Farm 2012 Devon TRF event on behalf of Albion Motorcycles, but of course the day was cancelled. They also entered the Moor to Sea on a PR3 and came in 11^th in class.

 

They said they would support Green Lane Motorcycles at future events and if Green Lane wished to buy an Ultrapassar to use as a demonstrator then punters could try it out. The guy obviously saw my expression when he mentioned that the dealers had to buy the demonstrators from them, but said that this was the industry norm.

They said the new 240cc electric start engine was arriving in early 2013, to fit the PR3, so would also be available in the Ultrapassar.

The engine is not made in Portugal, but somewhere in Asia, to the spec chosen by AJP. Apparently they can chose what spec what they like, design, components and bearings etc, to a price, so they chose a good spec as they are offering a 2 year warranty.

I see the power and torque figures are a smidge down on the CRF230, I was hoping being a newer design it would be a bit higher, but I suppose they chose longevity and long service intervals over outright power. It is quoted as being much lighter than the CRF though.

It would be priced at about £3600 and comes with a 2 year guarantee.

So I would be interested to try one if they could get one down.

 

I have been keeping an eye on the AJP UK website for official news and my interest waned when I saw that until very very recently they were still showing Albion as one of their dealers and still had no mention of Green Lane Motorcycles.

 

Hopefully after a ride, I can make my mind up.

-- Edited by Tribey on Wednesday 16th of January 2013 05:17:28 PM

PR5 demonstrator for sale here 

A message sent today - copied from the National forum:

There'll be some 5 month old AJP 200cc PR3's hitting the classifieds in a few weeks, riding school's upping to 240's - only a handful of hours on - early bird discounts available,,*nudge nudge* Nod, wink etc - I know a man.....

Just been informed on Face book of a new AJP 400 it's a one off at the mo but looks very much like a DRZ in a chunky alloy frame ? Time will tell 

I don't think so... it would be a great idea for sure but I came across this thread about it from 2003 so I think if it were going to be anything it would already be out there.

One of these in N.Devon.

Ultrapassar 240........Will let you know how it gets on.

-- Edited by TTR on Friday 26th of April 2013 04:18:59 PM