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250cc or More???


I'm 16 st and have a 250 stroker - it's got more umph than I ever need wink

 

Kicking on a 2T not an issue - much easier than booting over a 4 banger smile



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Forgive me if this has been covered before...

I am on the hunt for a new bike, but am not sure if I should stick to a  400/450cc bike or go for a 250/300cc 2 stroke. The thing is that I am a big bloke and was wandering if the smaller bikes would cope with me. I had a DRZs previously which took me everywhere I required it to take me,but as we all know they are quite a bit of a heavy lump. So I am now looking for something lighter. I am 17 stone (maybe morebiggrinbiggrin- I know I should go on the Herbalifebiggrinbiggrin) and would appreciate some input on this.... Please no "go on a diet tips" lol

May sound like a dumb ass question, but I don't want to be stuck with a bike that struggles with me aboard it.

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I think you will find that the smaller strokers put out roughly the same amount of power as the larger bangers.

Same power + less weight makes for less hard work in tighter more technical situations.

Gasgas and Ktm make a 300 version of their popular 250 machine which makes the same power but at less revs making grip easier to find.

If you are lucky someone will let you swap bikes for a few lanes on a ride so you can try before you buy.

Two strokes demand more rider input than the four stroke machines. Technique will get you places raw power will not. Go for it you will have a ball.



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im a big bloke 18.5 stoke and 6ft 2 and i love my crm smoker it pulls me no problem, i even cleaned devils steps sunday, with hardly any fuss, the only thing that would be nice is electric foot, but if you dont mind kicking go for 2t.
your welcome to have a go on mine anytime.

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Thanks for info guys. Deffo gives me more options. Thanks . Danny



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Romdobs has a very, very nice Husaberg 2T. Watching him the other day was poetry in motion. Maybe try one of those. It also has the Leccy boot. Fuel consumption was slightly better than my 390 2T. 30 plus mpg was the order of the day.

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i got a 300 katoom smoke with leccy boot for off road/endurocross mx can be rode like a trials bike or like you stole it, if you, ride it like that i promise you that once in every outing you will be trying to wind the power off to avoid it dumping you off the back, 10 kg lighter than my greenlaner 525 both will have more power than you will ever need.btw i am only 13.5 stone. never said that b4 .hoc

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Great stuff...

Right then!!! Gas Gas 250 or KTM300?

 

Views advice  and opinions would be good, cheers.

Danny



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KTM of course.....



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Less is more - 250 is more than enough for laning and the occasionaly sanctioned blat. 2T as less to go wrong.  Take your pick but just remember you have your own mind and you don't have to follow the crowd... wink



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Mmmm.  Plenty to ponder on. Hopefully get something by the weekend. Cheers, all!



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danno82 wrote:

Great stuff...

Right then!!! Gas Gas 250 or KTM300?

 

Views advice  and opinions would be good, cheers.

Danny


 Not ridden the KTM but had an 05 Gasser 250 and it was hard to ride well (for me......hmm)

Seemed it either wanted to wheelie or spin up. Difficult to get traction and even the local, better riders had trouble kickstarting it in gear. You don't think it's a problem until you stall it halfway up a snotty climb and have to find neutral before kicking it over....then getting it in gear before pulling away.

Just this one hassle made me change to a 4 stroke with leccy start.....and engine brakingsmile

 



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All good comments Ming and I agree - but I love my stroker cause you have to 'work' at it and it makes me smile like the TTR never did wink - can't say I have ever tried (or had the need) to try to kick it over in gear, must give it a go in the morning smile

 

I rode a TTR up 192 079 a few weeks back and it made me realise just how much 'easier' it was on a 4t, It didn't feel like it was trying to kill me biggrin



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imo a 300 is better for laneing then a 250 250s use more petrol aswell

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Certainly never a dull moment with a stroker - you need to be prepared to know it will expect more effort from you to ride it, and in return it will give you the ride of its life (a bit like a fine woman really -- a 2T would like having a night with Angelina Jolie in crotchless Lara Croft gear and a 4T more like an night with Susan Boyle).




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maggotman wrote:

imo a 300 is better for laneing then a 250 250s use more petrol aswel

Probably would agree with this, 300 gas gas regually uses about a litre less over a 70-80 mile run


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The 300 option is a big step up from 250 a lot lot more go on tap be very gentle with right hand they will lug in second gear well but can be ballistic on top is that what you want ! The 250 T2 Fuel consumption there the same as a 450 T4 same power out put think burns fuel every stroke unlike every other simple want economy get a 250 T4 crf/wrf are very comp and can be made to go ? So if your looking at 300 hope your as good as we all think we are lol lost

450 recommend crf / wrf /any of the Ktm good luck

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Certainly never a dull moment with a stroker - you need to be prepared to know it will expect more effort from you to ride it, and in return it will give you the ride of its life (a bit like a fine woman really -- a 2T would like having a night with Angelina Jolie in crotchless Lara Croft gear and a 4T more like an night with Susan Boyle).


 LOL biggrin thats it I'm never going back to a 4T now.



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 4T more like an night with Susan Boyle


 



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A vary capable trail bike ESP when going gets tough Pete goes on and on and on !

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(2T would like having a night with Angelina Jolie in crotchless Lara Croft gear)

lmao, very true.

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I see my DRZ more as a Fern Britton .... no one wants to admit to wanting a go but secretly wants to.

 



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Wheely wrote:

a 2T would like having a night with Angelina Jolie in crotchless Lara Croft gear


Although once all the 2 smoke oil finally clears from your eyes & lungs (and you finally come back down) you realise that it was actually Lord Croft that you've just spent the night with... Angelina was there for a moment but had to leave as she was physically sickened by it all...biggrin

 



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Are we still on the forever young thread I've lost way!


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I see my DRZ more as a Fern Britton .... no one wants to admit to wanting a go but secretly wants to.

 


 Fern Cotton maybe but FB?



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I have a husaberg 450 it makes me grin from ear to ear takes me everywhere plenty off low down grunt and traction, will lift the front wheel with no hesitation too and on the road will break the speed limit if you want it too. fuel consumption is very good too, and easy to service. would love to try the new husaberg 300 2stroke though!!!

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Travelled down to Redruth earlier and had a little go on a CRM250 (MK2) that I'm interested in. As you all know, quite an old bike but felt like it had the potential to be great fun. What's your views on that one to then?

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Picking the CRM up tomorrow. Aaagggggghhhhhh........ What am I doing???? lol

Thanks again for all the advice guys. Most helpful indeed!

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Good choice - Pete B is one trail rider I would take advice from and he rides one wink



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Yea another crm, you wont regret it they are spot on.


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Good choice but can feel heavy after an off....



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Yep great bike 1st road legal off roader i had was a crm and it was great

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Nice one danny. I'll be interested to hear how it compares to the DRZ once you have given it a good test.

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Picked up the CRM today and am looking forward to getting out and about on Sunday on it. Gonna rip it apart tomoz to make sure all is ok first... Also picked up my Grandad's Honda 250 Super Dream today. Gonna restore it back to its former glory ......(not sure about the glory bit?)lol. Will keep me well occupied.



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I shall let ya know how I get on, Mossy, after weekend.



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danno82 wrote:

Also picked up my Grandad's Honda 250 Super Dream today. Gonna restore it back to its former glory ......(not sure about the glory bit?)lol. Will keep me well occupied.


 I had one of those for a day in 1981 whilst my GSX250 was having something done at Bridge (can't remember what confuse)

I'd wanted one when I was younger, can't remember why I got the GSX instead but my only real memory of the Superdream was that it was much faster in 5th than 6th biggrin.

Good luck with the resto, I love seeing 70's & 80's bikes on the road today.



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Good old wet dreams. I had one for a few months whilst waiting on an insurance claim after I crashed my Gpz600r.
Handled like the worse thing on earth, revved like fook and went nowhere fast. I miss that bike lol.



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Good old wet dreams. I had one for a few months


 You sleep too much Wheely.biggrin



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Steve H wrote:
 whilst my GSX250 was having something done at Bridge

 Still got mine smile got it new in 1981 - dad (76) rides it quite a lot.....



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jt wrote:
Steve H wrote:
 whilst my GSX250 was having something done at Bridge

 Still got mine smile got it new in 1981 - dad (76) rides it quite a lot.....


 Blimey biggrin

I passed my test on mine biggrinbiggrin

I'll have to pop over sometime to see it, if that's ok.



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Steve H wrote:
jt wrote:
Steve H wrote:
 whilst my GSX250 was having something done at Bridge

 Still got mine smile got it new in 1981 - dad (76) rides it quite a lot.....


I passed my test on mine biggrinbiggrin


 So did I smile



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