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Jerry atterick · Expert

Bad weather

TTR · Powermonger!!

Not sure they will be entirely safe though what with fallen (falling?) trees and standing water.

I went out on the TTR to look at my local Muddy Lane - not so muddy now! Decided not to try it on mine own

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Jerry atterick · Expert

If its that deep there, it will be 3 foot the other end, that will wet the t-------s!

TTR · Powermonger!!

Yep - that corner is probably up to t******e level! Not going to test it out.....

The TTR is safely back in the garage and I think it will stay there for another week or so - or until Trev can get his TTR out of his shed wink

RichT4 · Champion

Yeh, I'm kicking myself for not getting out last weekend..., but with an amber weather warning in effect (for rain) lasting until Saturday night I think my trusty steed will just get fettled some more.
Sunday could be a possibility though.

Pete · Devon's Best

Saw several rainbows, showers, rain, hail, sleet, snow and a fair bit of sunshine yesterday while out on the mountain bike. The wind was blowing the trees about so much they looked like they were dancing and the Teign valley was littered with fallen branches last night.

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Lanes should be 'interesting'. Plenty of work for the tree fairies I imagine.

JT's train set is broken again and made the national news, again.

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

From Dawlish. Note house in peril cry cry

danwr450f · Clubman B

TTR wrote:
Not sure they will be entirely safe though what with fallen (falling?) trees and standing water.
I went out on the TTR to look at my local Muddy Lane - not so muddy now! Decided not to try it on mine own

That lane is ridiculously wet when there's been no rain, I hate to imagine how deep that water is now, especially around the bend!

wackyracer · Powermonger!!

Best time to ride smile

Been out with Hampster when its as bad as this but at Night time biggrin biggrin keeps ya focused wink biggrin

hampsterracing · Devon's Best

wackyracer wrote:
Best time to ride
Been out with Hampster when its as bad as this but at Night time keeps ya focused

They were quality rides

jt · Powermonger!!

doug9270 wrote:
From Dawlish. Note house in peril

Been there with tigermans brother all day today......

devondan · Champion

Hurry up and fix it then! - Just where do you begin?

Cubber · Expert

Oh dear.

And probably for the next 6 weeks too - according to tonight's news! wink

Martyn

jt · Powermonger!!

That's just one bit that's broken, I cover Bridgewater to Penzance.....and the forecast for the weekend is worse than yesterday's.

No riding for me for the next few weekends, going to be a very busy boy

devondan · Champion

I was going to the Classic Bike show at the Bath and West this weekend, cant imagine the outdoor autojumble is going to be fun!

Nige · Expert

jt wrote:
doug9270 wrote:
From Dawlish. Note house in peril
Been there with tigermans brother all day today......

Thats shocking.

Think it needs some slab track.

RichT4 · Champion

Even Sidmouth has taken a beating - at the end where the boats are stored the sea has ripped the tarmac off the pavement and spread huge chunks across the road. The road is littered with stones & pebbles....

chrisoncbr · Expert

devondan wrote:
I was going to the Classic Bike show at the Bath and West this weekend, cant imagine the outdoor autojumble is going to be fun!

I'm taking the Puch up. Might see you there?

Viking · Account Deleted

that house in dawlish is a members house

Jocko AKA Simmo · Clubman B

RichT4 wrote:
The road is littered with stones & pebbles....

Probably due to the fact that it is a predominately pebble covered beach. Where is the surprise?

"Life is a beach!" ???

-- Edited by Jocko AKA Simmo on Thursday 6th of February 2014 11:31:28 AM

Jocko AKA Simmo · Clubman B

Cubber wrote:
Oh dear.
And probably for the next 6 weeks too - according to tonight's news!
Martyn

We don't live in the USA. I'd be surprised if it took as little as 6 weeks. You have the personnel and skills but the Fat Controllers in Westminster have no knowledge of what each limb is doing at any one time. The Environment Secretary was so shocked by what he saw when he forgot his wellies that his eyeball came out. See http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-26057456 NOT JOKING!

-- Edited by Jocko AKA Simmo on Thursday 6th of February 2014 11:41:34 AM

Jerry atterick · Expert

I will be very surprised if they complete that work in 6 weeks, more like 18 months.
I will be happy to be proven wrong.
Consultation, design, clearing up, making safe, local do gooder committees, arranging finance, tenders and thats all before they even think about "Mending it".
The only access for machines, 360s lorries etc of a suitable size is via the bridge access, so that will need to come down and be replaced later.
That one operation will take 6 weeks.
6 weeks is what the politicians think the general populus will handle, after the storm, pun not intended, has died down, then the truth and reality will filter through.
Call me "Mr Cynical". Tee hee.
Thats a 60s record, isnt it?

RichT4 · Champion

Jocko AKA Simmo wrote:
RichT4 wrote:
The road is littered with stones & pebbles....
Probably due to the fact that it is a predominately pebble covered beach. Where is the surprise?
"Life is a beach!" ???

Yeh, some pebbles on the road along the front is nothing new, whole sections thick in stones with small stone drift banks on the opposite side is something new. biggrin

Stones were also down the roads leading to the front, stretching into town towards the shops. Road Closed signs were there and had been used so the front must have been closed off the night before.

It must have been very rough down there - no smashed windows this time though.

devondan · Champion

Viking wrote:
that house in dawlish is a members house

Flippin heck - I hope he and his family are ok and have somewhere to live?

Steve H · Devon's Best

IMO the best icecreams on Exmouth seafront, no more cry

There was an WW2 flare grenade found under it as well, Bomb Disposal were called out to sort it.

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TTR · Powermonger!!

My little grandsons will be devastated cry

danwr450f · Clubman B

TTR wrote:
My little grandsons will be devastated

I'm devastated too. That was the best ice cream in town cry

Jerry atterick · Expert

Bloody hell Mr TTR, I reckon it was the grandchildren that did the damage in the first place!

TTR · Powermonger!!

Jerry atterick wrote:
Bloody hell Mr TTR, I reckon it was the grandchildren that did the damage in the first place!

Ah yes - you have met the little angels disbelief

I wonder if it had a fire alarm coz that would have been the attraction wink

jt · Powermonger!!

Hello all, been a busy few days

This is the line at Bridgewater which is normally on a 6ft high bank.....

The hole at Dawlish.....

Which is looking a bit better now, we are using shipping containers full of stone as a temp breakwater (Wacky take note wink )

I have a day in the chopper tomorrow having a look from above so if you see a black and yellow bird in the sky then give me a wave smile got a film crew with me as well !!!

-- Edited by jt on Sunday 9th of February 2014 09:39:27 PM

Steve H · Devon's Best

Well JT, if you flew over Exmouth at 10.42 I waved

jt · Powermonger!!

Yep that would have been me heading for Dawlish as we left Exeter about 10.30 - just landed now after a trip up around the levels.

Nige · Expert

I saw you at Victory checking the ballast pile at the west somerset railway.

Shbay · Clubman B

So then JT what's the truth are they really looking at diverting the track inland like all the reports say?

gaschef · Devon's Best

Pity the conservatives and Dr Beeching didn't leave well alone in the 1960's then we had a line from Exeter via Ide and down the teign vally to Newton Abbott, and another over the top of Dartmoor via Okehampton and Meldon and down the TAmar valley to Plymouth. Now they are saying it will cost tens of millions to build a line they shut down to save a few thousand

The big question do any of the politicians actually know what is good for this country, as at present the people are paying for the past ****ups!!!!!!!

chrisoncbr · Expert

gaschef wrote:
Pity the conservatives and Dr Beeching didn't leave well alone in the 1960's then we had a line from Exeter via Ide and down the teign vally to Newton Abbott, and another over the top of Dartmoor via Okehampton and Meldon and down the TAmar valley to Plymouth. Now they are saying it will cost tens of millions to build a line they shut down to save a few thousand
The big question do any of the politicians actually know what is good for this country, as at present the people are paying for the past ****ups!!!!!!!

Course not. They're all in it for themselves. Anyone who was any good wouldn't want to do it anyway. Those MFs in Westminster have nothing in common with us down here. Now where's me dirty bomb?

Pete · Devon's Best

gaschef wrote:
Pity the conservatives and Dr Beeching didn't leave well alone in the 1960's then we had a line from Exeter via Ide and down the teign vally to Newton Abbott, and another over the top of Dartmoor via Okehampton and Meldon and down the TAmar valley to Plymouth. Now they are saying it will cost tens of millions to build a line they shut down to save a few thousand
The big question do any of the politicians actually know what is good for this country, as at present the people are paying for the past ****ups!!!!!!!

If they try to reopen the Teign valley railway they will regret building the dual carriageway over it. We will lose Stibb lane at Ashton too, unless the level crossing gets reinstated. I predict massive NIMBYism as people have to give up their gardens. And I'll have to find somewhere else to walk and cycle when I want to go the the Manor inn at Ashton. And the Moor to Sea will have to find a new route.

Bleating about the tens of millions is all very well but they will be throwing another few tens of millions at the Dawlish sea wall instead of doing the right thing.

Wintry showers were forecast yesterday but I wasn't expecting the snow drifting down in huge flakes on Dartmoor, and 191-075 was white over with hail in a very short time. Hail really stings when all you have on is cycling gear!

jt · Powermonger!!

Steve H wrote:
Well JT, if you flew over Exmouth at 10.42 I waved

Can't make you out in the pic I took, where were you biggrin wink

The levels

fatbaz · Clubman B

it is sad to see

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Waves lapping over the railway inland, impressive.

JC · Clubman B

Pete wrote:
gaschef wrote:
Pity the conservatives and Dr Beeching didn't leave well alone in the 1960's then we had a line from Exeter via Ide and down the teign vally to Newton Abbott, and another over the top of Dartmoor via Okehampton and Meldon and down the TAmar valley to Plymouth. Now they are saying it will cost tens of millions to build a line they shut down to save a few thousand
The big question do any of the politicians actually know what is good for this country, as at present the people are paying for the past ****ups!!!!!!!
If they try to reopen the Teign valley railway they will regret building the dual carriageway over it. We will lose Stibb lane at Ashton too, unless the level crossing gets reinstated. I predict massive NIMBYism as people have to give up their gardens. And I'll have to find somewhere else to walk and cycle when I want to go the the Manor inn at Ashton. And the Moor to Sea will have to find a new route.
Bleating about the tens of millions is all very well but they will be throwing another few tens of millions at the Dawlish sea wall instead of doing the right thing.
Wintry showers were forecast yesterday but I wasn't expecting the snow drifting down in huge flakes on Dartmoor, and 191-075 was white over with hail in a very short time. Hail really stings when all you have on is cycling gear!

According to BBC today, Network Rail have chosen their route already, which is the much more sensible (IMHO) route over Dartmoor.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-26110559

Possibly also because ECC/Bardon Aggregates spent a small fortune restoring Meldon Viaduct, which I believe they bought off DCC for £1, and now just carries the cycle path - and because the line to Meldon was orginally built as a main line, and up until a few years ago was still used for hauling ballast from the quarry (still used for tourists). There will of course be NIMBYism, but I was more shocked to hear the MP for Dawlish insisting that some £300m should be used to rebuild the sea wall instead of making an alternative inland! I'd like to see her face up to the regular train passengers who now have to go by road until the existing line is repaired.

jt · Powermonger!!

Not in anyway an 'official' comment - but I would love to work on a railway over the moor. The meldon line and the NDN from Credition right up through Barny, Yelland, Instow to Meeth was my first 'patch' when I started.........I know i don't look it but I am that old......I can remember going to Ilfracombe on the train as well!!!!!

smile

Cubber · Expert

You're too modest, JT.

Who, other than you, has said that you don't look that old? confuse

Martyn

Simon D · Clubman B

devondan wrote:
Viking wrote:
that house in dawlish is a members house
Flippin heck - I hope he and his family are ok and have somewhere to live?

Yes I am ok thanks. We have been rehoused in Lady's Mile caravan park just up the Road from "ground zero". The caravan park owner is kindly letting us stay for the time being for £20 per week which just covers his costs for the gas and leccy. But the best news is three and a half TRF members and myself managed to drag my 250xc up the cliff this afternoon, so now at least I have one of my toys to cheer me up. Looking forward to riding Sunday at the Core day. Thanks so much guys for your help just what I needed! Although I think Joes plan to take the Ducati out the same way was possibly a little ambitious! Thanks again - top men.

jt · Powermonger!!

If I can help 'facilitate' getting your bike out through our worksite mate let me know and I will see what I can do.

JT

Mike Wright · Clubman A

jt wrote:
If I can help 'facilitate' getting your bike out through our worksite mate let me know and I will see what I can do.

JT

If you need any extra help Im happy to assist

Shbay · Clubman B

Simon you can always now blam the broken sub frame on the weather

Any help you need mate let me know

Cheers sam

Simon D · Clubman B

jt wrote:
If I can help 'facilitate' getting your bike out through our worksite mate let me know and I will see what I can do.

JT

That would have been bit easier than dragging it up the cliff at the back of the house. Been bit pre occupied this week to look on the forum. Thanks for the offer though, but all sorted now thanks.

doug9270 · Powermonger!!

Once the rain and water problem goes away and the press have moved onto something else like a drought then all this will be forgotten, will the support money still be there and will a new/old railway be built/commissioned highly unlikely.

HS2 is so much more important.

Jerry atterick · Expert

Lanes should be even better now!
Chainsaws all sharpened in readiness.